it's I just love it when I'm concentrating on something that that's sort of my my therapy. And so what that means is like if I'm not concentrating on something, I feel all handsy and it's just like, really? And so I end up just sort of doing this stuff. Mostly, it's I keep saying, yes, toe when some bizarre opportunity arises and, um, I don't know. It's just turned out with this strange what you get into this path where you started doing kind of wacky things, that then it becomes more comfortable and you're actually you're, like, itching for what's the next wacky experience I can become involved in. (Time 0:02:52)

Note: You start becoming comfortable and want to be involved in more wacky experiences

I just love it when I'm concentrating on something that that's sort of my my therapy. And so what that means is like if I'm not concentrating on something, I feel all handsy and it's just like, (Time 0:02:53)

Note: She love concentrating on things all the time

And unfortunately what academia often does isn't like, sharpens your focus. So that you're, you know, more and more about less and less. And so I just didn't want to end up being that way. So that meant that I did my dissertation and got my doctor I hired on his ah, assistant professor or trying to get tenure. And even while I was trying to get tenure in the background, I just had this stupid idea. Whitman. I want to find out why. I mean, people mean people do what they do, not psychopaths, but just those kind of people that they're super nice, Tia. And then suddenly they just (Time 0:04:55)

Note: She started out as a linguist and then switched to engineering. She didn’t want to fall into what academia did to most about knowing more and more about less and less

One of the things it shows us like one of my biggest concerns is that I think there are a lot of people like me when I was growing up. Like I said, I I was no super genius or something. And so we moved. When I was a little kid. I was seven years old. We moved from Texas to Massachusetts, and suddenly they're way ahead of me in the multiplication tables. So I wasn't a super genius, and I never really cared for math anyway, so I just said, Well, heck, I don't have the math, Jean. I'm not good at this. And so I just gave it up, and nobody ever told me that. For example, the (Time 0:13:24)

Note: Doesn’t have the math gene

involves being able to be a little Machiavellian yourself because you have to be able to anticipate the kinds of tricks that could be pulled on you, Um, and yet also you know being genuinely decent enough that most people can catch the fact that that's what you're trying to do. So you know. So I I just don't think it's a simple as I'm gonna optimize my administrative skills because every set of personnel you ever get will have their own sense of great things and potentially their own sets off. For example, Uh, who's the latest one who is at, (Time 0:24:56)

Note: Being an administrator is g

Machiavellian: cunning, scheming, and unscrupulous, especially in politics. Crafty, sly, devious

you build new patterns. Ah, but guys, it's approaching, you know, 70 and he's going stronger now than he ever was before. And I'm I'm convinced part of it is just he really makes exercise an important part of his working day And, um, you know, every other day or so he's down on the beach going for a run and, um, I e I think that people don't quite sometimes don't take the the wherewithal to add exercising and, you know, because they're working this hard to the kid and they don't realize that adding of at least a little bit exercise can (Time 0:34:33)

Note: Exercise is important

be doing it at a trade off cost as faras, that other very different network, which makes wild and random and totally crazy connections, which is what fuels your creativity. So I can't help but wonder that I think it's important to spend at least some part of your day letting your brain just go land. Um um, and that's why I think going for a walk is excellent, especially if you're just kind of let your brain go while you're doing. And almost letting yourself be bored for some periods of the day is helpful because if you focus every every single (Time 0:36:35)

Note: Intentional boredom is good